Dean Wants Hillary off Convention Ballot for…”Unity”

What he really means is for the “selectee.”

We mustn’t let it get out that over half of the Democratic Party actually supports Senator Clinton. We mustn’t let anyone know that there are actually delegates who are refusing to fall in line behind “The Chosen One” or who are still committed to expressing their preference for Senator Clinton and representing the 18 million voters who chose her.

The New York Times Reports:

When Mr. Dean reached out to Cynthia Ruccia, who started an organization of female Clinton swing-state voters threatening to vote for Mr. McCain, Ms. Ruccia asked that the Democratic convention include a symbolic first ballot for Mrs. Clinton’s delegates. Mr. Dean discouraged the idea on the grounds of unity.[emphasis mine]

Howard Dean the DNC are clearly trying to suppress Senator Clinton’s support and prevent her multitude of pledged delegates from voting for her at the Convention. They are running scared, because they are well aware she could still take this thing when it comes to a vote at the Convention.

Apparently it’s not enough that the RBC, on the DDD (the Day Democracy Died) arbitrarily and while dancing on the grave of “the rules,” not only reassigned 55 “uncommitted” delegates to Senator Obama, but also hijacked 4 of Senator Clinton’s delegates and handed them to Senator Obama, officially making him the “selectee,” now they want to just throw out the voting all together and prevent pledged delegates or superdelegates (who can change their mind up until they submit their secret first ballot) from even having the option of voting for Senator Clinton, the popular vote winner. 

Senator Clinton’s name should be on those ballots, as she has not released her delegates. The same holds true for Senator Edwards and any other candidate that earned delegates and suspended their campaign. 

This is disgusting. The Democratic(?) Party needs a  name change, stat. 

293 Responses to “Dean Wants Hillary off Convention Ballot for…”Unity””

  1. Apparently he still hasn’t grasped the idea that the more he pushes her, the harder we’ll push back.

    for someone who wants unity, he sure doesnt know how to get it.

  2. this is what I tried to address in my email to SDs and D. Brazile

    OUR DEMANDS have to be uniform. they must include the “unsuspending” of HRCs campaign and the RIGHT for both candidates to make their case at the Convention.

  3. Good grief. Next thing you know, Dr. Dean will cancel the convention “for the sake of unity.”

    I spoke with a Democratic Party leader in Washington State today and asked if anyone in the state party was conducting polls or collecting information on Hillary supporters who were vowing to either vote for McCain, write in Hillary, or just not vote. Her immediate reply was, “Oh there is a long time until November. Hillary supporters will get over their hurt feelings and vote for Obama.” Grrrrrrrr! Needless to say, I informed her that I was one Hillary supporter who would definitely NOT vote for Obama. To that, she said virtually the same canned reply of, “you’ll come around in November. You’re still feeling badly about your candidate losing the primary.” At that point, I sort of lost it and said that the Democratic Party line was totally dismissive and that come November, large numbers of us would remember May 31st and the current “dissing” of Hillary supporters.

    GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!

  4. It’s really making me angry that nobody’s taking us seriously!! How can we make them see?!

  5. We won the popular vote. We would win in November. But, Dean and the party elites have stolen our chance with undemocratic rules and games. Now, this! How detestable. I will stay strong. I will support Hillary to the end. And, it looks like we need to support McCain for now in order to secure our victory in the end.

  6. MSNBC just showed a poll that said Obama is winning women votes by almost 20% over McCain

    Ugh. What are these women thinking???

  7. Don’t believe what you see on the news or internet.Just stick with Hillary supporters.They want you t believe that woman are going to woman in droves.I do not believe they are.Remember Obama has the money to hire broadcasting,and surrogates to blog and write articles. They want you to be discouraged.

  8. First never bel;ieve a poll from MSNBC go to Real Clear Politics and then to places like gallop or rasmussen. Second Dean pissed me off before but he has me raging now. I wish he was still in elected office so we could unelect him in a landslide. Since we cant we need to make sure Obama loses by a landslide. The have been studies and research done that if 5% of Hillary supporters switch to McCain then Obama would lose. That is only 850,000 votes I am sure we could get that over the USA is we work at it.

  9. I was just on MYSPACE and OMG…there are TONS AND TONS of myspace pages from Hillary supporters for McCain, Only voting Hillary, etc..

    I’m trying to spread the word about this website here.

    So so so many pages on myspace. We are not alone, thats for sure.

  10. Come on MSNBC??? Who cares about their poll…how can we trust anyone anymore?

    Don’t buy into it. Clinton’s name should be on the ballot at the convention. She earned that right.

  11. You ask what we must do, it is clear, TELL THEM YOU WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN AND TELL THEM YOU WILL AND DO SEND MONEY TO HIM. Tell them we will continue to do so until they put Clinton back on the top of the ticket.
    We must hold our votes hostage from the DNC until they get the message and change their minds NOW. The Jewish people are doing so (according to netquarterusa), if it can work for them it will work for us.
    We must be tough and accept the fact that they will not listen to words, money and action talks!
    It is very hard to listen to my friends who say that I am a traitor, for giving to McCain but it is the only way to make the DNC pay attention to us.
    Be strong and we will get what we want, we women are experts at getting what we want.

  12. Let the DNC believe as they will. They will see in November. Just saw a tape of Debbie Stabenow making reassuring statements. Dick Durbin and Rahm Emmanuel did not look particularly reassured.

  13. i’m thinking about starting a myspace profile for Hillary supporters.

    Can anyone think of a good name for it?

    i’m going to add as many pro-Hillary myspace profiles as possible and also post as many links for pro-Hillary sites (like this one) as I can…to inform those who dont know about us.

  14. They are not taking us seriously. My family (5 members), are not going to change our minds. We are pissed off, and then some. It goes deeper. We’ve been doing the reading, we know what Obama is like. We know of his thin resume, his campaign tactics, his racism, his strange associates. A couple of these traits would have been enough to take most candidates down, but with the DNC support-he’s still here. Hillary’s supporters need to come together to make a big statement. Dean and the DNC can go to hell.

  15. HOWARD DEAN MUST BE STOPPED!!! He highjacked the election, he had a plan…read the DEAN PLAN on REZKO WATCH… He is guilty of Conflict of Interest in this campaign, he is guilty of Election Fraud, by his Rules and Bylaws committee, he’s gone too far…Why would any chairman of the DNC push out the candidate with the most votes and give the election by way of influence over super delegates to the 2nd place winner(loser)? The Fix was in…and they had to push Hillary out of the race, because she was ruining his PLAN! Hillary was great though, wasn’t she, she didn’t drop out, no matter how much they tried, she finished STRONG!!! Howard Dean must step down!

  16. Howard Dean, a man whose lack of self-control cost him a nomination, wants to control Senator Clinton’s 18 million supporters. Well, control your little kiss-Obama’s-butt convention, but you cannot control us. I saw Lou Dobbs tonight and he was reading letters from DEMs who have registered as independents because they are angery. Sounds like a hole in your unity, Howard.

  17. maybe we shoul hold the convention at obama house ,there is an empty lot next to his house , dean and his friends can hold a vote.. and shout hurry for democracy!!!!!!!!!1

  18. Hillary received 18 million votes. I do not believe that even half will vote for Obama who has virtually no experience to lead this country. If all of us stick together and support McCain vs Obama we can and will make a difference. I still hope that somehow Hillary is nominated at the convention. I am old enough to remember the Kennedy/Carter fight. It could happen again. Regardless, there are many blogs out there with thousands of people uniting to defeat the DNC’s reckless regard for democracy. Obama was selected - not elected.

  19. I keep receiving letters from the democratic party, for me to donate to Senator Obama’s campaign, and then they say something terrible about Senator McCain.
    I have written them back more than once, and just cancelled them, and said…I will only vote for HIllary, should the superdelagates cast their vote for her, or I will vote for John McCain, only they will receive my money. As for obama, I told them I think he has enough money, and doesn’t need to take my gas money.
    I am so angry that they think “we will come around” um…no…we won’t….we have a voice, and we are not sheep….we voted, and voted 18 million for Hillary, and if they want to ignore that, and let Obama keep making bad judgments after judgments, then that is the DNC, and I say, shame on you! they do not seem to understand how united we feel…and committed we are…we can not ‘be led” we will chose!

  20. Did anyone notice, that today, even Obama is saying Hillary would be on anyones short list of Vice Presidents….um yeah…they can not win without her….and if McCain plays his cards right…he will win.
    They just don’t get it. Obama did not win a large state…he won caucuses…which are flawed….
    He can not carry a state, and he keeps showing how ignorant he is every time he opens his mouth to talk. McCain is running ads on how naive he is…and young~ not vetted. and when his own “vetting” team, that he put together, can even make it a week without a scandal…thats really bad…

  21. Hillary did Not lose this election, she won and has suspended her campaign, which means
    “to temporarily put off “, there’s still the convention, so we have a lot of work to do, of writing the super delegates and convincing them that it’s in their best interest to vote for Hillary in August.

  22. Let’s become the NEW HILL FAMILY / VILLAGE

    the Hillaryclinton.com is not trustworhy anyomore, they are actually asking for donations to BO

    Cannot do it, Him and the DNC can take a hike——a long and hard trail, straight to hell

  23. Need to have a unified approach or they will continue to treat women as a bunch of screaming hysterical ladies. Start with Chris Matthews or Keith Olbermann on MSNBC. For a short time they toned down their outrageous behavior towards Hillary Clinton when they felt they were under attack. A democratic society needs a free and unbiased press. These guys are anything but unbiased.

  24. I truly believe that the press was forced to show some things about NObama by real journalists when the Rev. Wright scandal came up… over and over again we see the man who for 20 years was NObama’s preacher… and we hear the same rhetoric out of NObama’s mouth. Change, what change and how? I will not be putting money into the “donation” basket for the preacher man… We need a real leader not one who is paid for and chosen by the DNC. By the way, anyone heard when and if Donna Brazile will be quitting the Democratic party??? Didn’t she say that she would be if the Superdelegates were the ones who chose the nominee? How about a barage of emails to her for her resignation?

    NObama in ‘08

  25. I think thats an excellent idea. Bombard D. Brazile w/ emails demanding her resignation.

  26. CAN OBAMA BE PRESIDENT?
    It seems that Barack Obama is not qualified to be president after all for the following reason:
    Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal US Law very clearly stipulates: “.If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawaii being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aforementioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.
    *** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. *** Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S. citizen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in Indonesia. Now you can see why Obama’s aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. election law. I think the Gov. of California would be very interested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days.
    —————————————————————————————— —————————————————————————————— ——————-
    Thomas Sowell
    Rose and Milton Friedman Senior Fellow
    The Hoover Institution
    Stanford University
    Stanford, California 94305

  27. I Found a web site yesterday that showed a news paper from Kenya stating that obama was born there! Head lines: Kenya’s own born wins presidential nomination! If this is true ,how can he even be on the ticket? Donna

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  29. Greetings
    Obama is refusing to show his birth certificate to the media, and Hawaii doesn’t treat them as puplic records (meaning they can’t be shown or copied for public use). Perhaps the Obama isn’t a native born son, and if he isn’t, the DNC is going to look really bad over this. The Constitution is clear on that issue!!
    As an aside, ladies, because I am a male and may not view this from a femine point of view, Obama isn’t a progressive, or liberal. Neither is Hillary. I am not really sure what side of the fence Obama falls on because his voting record is full of inconsistencies. Hillary is centrist on most issues, a reflection of growing up in a Republican household and being married to a Southern politician who is also centrist. The point being please don’t condemn progressives; Obama isn’t one. Also, do you really want 4 more years of bushism? Cynthia McKinney might be a better threat to use against the DNC than McCain from a feminist point of view: she is female, and it takes away the “racist” label that is being stuck on those who aren’t falling in line. A female friend of mine who is going Obama ask me if maybe I was being racist; I am not being racist, just concerned we are placing someone unqualified in more ways than one on the ballot who, if elected, would have his hand on the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.
    I believe our concerns are falling on deaf ears. I have sent letters to almost all the liberal blogs and email lists I am on, and no one has responded. You women will be hit with Roe v. Wade until November (another reason for McKinney), and all of us will share the racist label.
    PUMA

    Hi Pam!

    Kellis

  30. I’ve been trying to think of some way to show the DNC that we are serious and will not ‘come back’. It’s hard to prove in August what you will do in November.

    Signing up in massive numbers at friendly websites would help: show large membership rolls. (I mean really extreme websites, like clintons4mccain or hcsfjm etc, with the message right there in the name.)

    Paying money would help. The trouble is that donating to McCain is premature (as long as HIllary has a chance in August) and more importnat, we can’t TRUST McCain, nice as he may act, to release information at the right time to help Hillary get the nomination. He doesn’t WANT HIllary to be nomnated. He wants us to be stuck with him.

    For a while PUMA sounded like a good place to donate (Party Unity My ASs! and they were the first to actually get a PAC). But their actual mission statement sounds kind of mild and ineffectual. I guess we could donate to Pam, her petition was pretty strong. :-)

    Donating to pay Hillary’s debt shows support, but not resolve to defect.

    The clearest thing I can think of is to buy ‘gear’ with the message right on it: caps, stickers etc that say “Hillary OR McCain” or something like that. Unfortunately most of the money goes to the manufacturer, but at least it is a clear message and automatically documented.

    (I’ve got a little shop at
    http://www.cafepress.com/hillaryormccain , requests welcome) I’m posting about other vendors at pumaparty.com, and the admin there is working on a good gear project.

  31. Kellis,

    I don’t want to bog down in details about abortion etc. McCain voted for both of Bill Clinton’s judges, and recentlly defended his vote for Ginsberg. Obama refused to filibuster Bush’s judges and had to be pressured to even vote against one of them.

    The big picture is, a vote for McCain improves the direction of BOTH parties. It helps McCain move the GOP toward center, away from the religious nuts — and it keeps Obama from permanently taking over the Dems and moving them further from center, toward the Brazile faction.

    McCain and the GOP trying to woo us Clintonista women is a very healthy development for the GOP. If they find they don’t NEED the religious nuts any more — that finding can permanently improve the national climate for abortion and other women’s issues.

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